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Orient Bambino vs. Seiko Presage: Which Automatic Dress Watch Offers More?
Two Japanese mechanical watches have become entry points into traditional watchmaking. We compare their movements, finishing, dimensions and price.
Brand
Seiko Watches
- Founded
- 1881, Tokyo
- Based in
- Japan
- Group
- Seiko Group
- Known for
- The 4R calibers, Seiko 5 Sports, Presage and Prospex
Founded by Kintaro Hattori in Tokyo in 1881, Seiko builds nearly everything in-house, from hairsprings to finished watches. Its 4R automatic calibers power much of the value end of the market, while Prospex and Presage carry the brand into serious dive and dress territory.
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Orient AC0Q Diver II vs. Seiko Prospex SPB177
The Seiko brings a 70-hour movement and a diver’s rating for air diving. The Orient matches its accuracy rating in a far smaller case, and costs $530 less.
| AC0Q Diver II | Prospex SPB177 | |
|---|---|---|
| Price | $370 | $900 |
| Crystal | Flat sapphire | Sapphire with magnifier (cyclops) |
| Water resistance | 200m | 200m diver’s (air diving) |
- Best Value
- AC0Q Diver II
- Best Movement
- Prospex SPB177
- Best Build
- Prospex SPB177
- Editor’s Pick
- AC0Q Diver II
Comparison
Orient Kamasu vs. Seiko Prospex SRPF03
The Orient has the sapphire crystal, the smaller case and the tighter accuracy rating, and it costs $175 less. The Seiko is the one rated for diving.
| Kamasu | Prospex SRPF03 | |
|---|---|---|
| Price | $375 | $550 |
| Crystal | Sapphire | Hardlex |
| Water resistance | 200m | 200m diver’s (air diving) |
- Best Value
- Kamasu
- Best Movement
- Kamasu
- Best Build
- Prospex SRPF03
- Editor’s Pick
- Kamasu
Comparison
Orient Mako vs. Seiko King Turtle
Both are 200m automatics with sapphire crystals and screw-down crowns. Only the Seiko is a diver’s watch rated for air diving, and only the Orient is still sold by its maker in the US.
| Mako AA08 | King Turtle | |
|---|---|---|
| Crystal | Sapphire | Sapphire with magnifier (cyclops) |
| Water resistance | 200m | 200m diver’s (air diving) |
| Power reserve | About 40 hours | About 41 hours |
- Best Value
- Mako AA08
- Best Movement
- Mako AA08
- Best Build
- King Turtle
- Editor’s Pick
- King Turtle
Comparison
Orient Mako vs. Seiko 5 Sports 38mm
The Mako has sapphire, 200m and a screw-down crown for $375. The Seiko has a 38mm case, a display back and a $350 price. For most buyers, the case size will decide it.
| Mako | Seiko 5 Mid-Size | |
|---|---|---|
| Price | $375 | $350 |
| Crystal | Sapphire | Hardlex |
| Water resistance | 200m | 100m, not a diver’s watch |
- Best Value
- Mako
- Best Movement
- Mako
- Best Finishing
- Seiko 5 Mid-Size
- Editor’s Pick
- Seiko 5 Mid-Size
Comparison
Orient AC0Q Diver vs. Seiko 5 Sports SKX
The Orient is smaller, thinner and cheaper, with sapphire and 200m. The Seiko is larger, shows the day as well as the date and puts its movement on display.
| AC0Q Diver | Seiko 5 Sports | |
|---|---|---|
| Price | $370 | $400 |
| Crystal | Sapphire | Curved Hardlex |
| Water resistance | 200m | 100m, not a diver’s watch |
- Best Value
- AC0Q Diver
- Best Movement
- Seiko 5 Sports
- Best Build
- AC0Q Diver
- Editor’s Pick
- AC0Q Diver
Comparison
Orient Ray vs. Seiko 5 Sports
One is a 200m diver with a screw-down crown for $290. The other is a 100m sports watch with a display back for $350. Neither has sapphire, which is where the Kamasu comes in.
| AA02 Diver | Seiko 5 SRPD | |
|---|---|---|
| Price | $290 | $350 |
| Crystal | Mineral | Hardlex |
| Water resistance | 200m | 100m, not a diver’s watch |
- Best Value
- AA02 Diver
- Best Movement
- AA02 Diver
- Best Finishing
- Seiko 5 SRPD
- Editor’s Pick
- AA02 Diver
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